There are no sealing ordinances performed in the Temple. Manuscript page from Joseph Smith's New Translation. While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly called the "Utah Mormon" church (which holds the allegiance of most of the world's Mormons) is known for its former practice of polygamy, the Community of Christ never accepted that doctrine.Originally insisting that Joseph Smith had nothing to do with it, the church's leadership in … Since I wasn’t 100% certain which teachings came during the pre-Nauvoo and Nauvoo, I had to check with a friend (Blake) who just finished reading a new 2-volume history of the RLDS/CofC. Veazy didn’t wear a tie and he sat comfortable and talked freely/unformal. The solution for many gay Mormons and oppressed female Mormons is now dirt simple: You get to keep the Joseph’s Mythology you’re not ready throw under the bus yet, PLUS you solve ALL of the annoying, insulting problems that The Brethren hold dear with no sign of relenting … like the following: = Discrimination against Blacks: RLDS figured that out after the Civil War. Community of Christ is headquartered in Independence Missouri. 156:5e And it shall be a place in which the essential meaning of the Restoration as healing and redeeming agent is given new life and understanding, inspired by the life and witness of the Redeemer of the world. Please don’t hate me, but these interviews felt to me to follow this pattern: 1) interviewer claims “our” church is extreme, and asks is your church more moderate? I had the pleasure and honor of having Steve as a teacher/mentoring influence. (see Fig. i was impressed with Pres. It means very, very much for me ! Credit: Courtesy Community of Christ Library-Archives, Licensed to Joseph Smith Papers Project. They were organized on 1860-APR-6 in Amboy, IL. He is a preacher of righteousness. In March 2005, a joint council of church leaders led by the, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Prophet-Presidents_of_the_Community_of_Christ&oldid=988928654, Prophet-Presidents of the Community of Christ, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 16 November 2020, at 01:58. That dispersal of those who did not follow Brigham remained until April 6, 1860, when Joseph’s son, Joseph Smith III, became the president-prophet of the dispersed Saints and brought them back together. It affirms my belief in what Steve taught me so many years ago. Prior to his ordination on June 3, 2005, he served as a member of the Council of Twelve Apostles, the leading missionary quorum of Community of Christ. The included persons have served as President of the organization. All LDS problems solved! Steve was an executive minister to the Fremont Congregation in California, and was in charge of a missionary development project for the San Francisco Bay Stake. The church is very much committed to helping the cause of Zion and take seriously that part of the Lord’s prayer that says, “Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is heaven.” As members endeavor to be faithful disciples of Christ in the here-and-now, many members believe the hereafter will be taken care of and determined by the love, mercy, and grace of God as understood through God’s revelation in Jesus Christ. The organization is now known (since April 2001) as the Community of Christ in order to separate themselves from the Mormons. Your email address will not be published. This helped me to see a distance between the LDS Brethren, Pres. This article lists the Prophet-Presidents of the Community of Christ. Hope this helps! In the video link below, Community of Christ Prophet-President Stephen M. Veazey speaks about the importance of diversity in Community of Christ leadership. Salt of the earth people! It seems to me that the Community of Christ is to mainstream Mormonism something like what Unitarian Universalism is to the Judeo-Christian tradition. In 1844, Joseph Smith, prophet and seer and revelator of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, met an untimely death when he was killed in a gun battle at Carthage Jail in Carthage, Illinois (History of the Church 7:101-103). I see the possibility to comment are closing … I still want to share my great gratitude for this Pearl of Great Price you gave us, John ! Stephen Veazey hopes a future prophet-president will be female or Black. As January dawned in the year 1830, the Prophet Joseph Smith had much on his mind. I’m not ready giving it up, even though I’m changing it for myself: kicking out the dirt that happened to have gotten into it, as the terrible ideas about our beloved black brothers and sisters and the lies that sustain polygamy. As with this Familypedia wiki, the content of Wikipedia is available under the Creative Commons License. To this day we do not teach any of those concepts. Required fields are marked *. 156:5d It shall be the means for providing leadership education for priesthood and member. The Community of Christ was formerly (1872–2001) known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS). 2) interviewee responds that we try to be moderate. Even now we have members who disagree with some of our understandings and doctrines, such as the affirming same-sex marriage and ordination of LGBT members, but they remain members in good standing as we have no creed for membership. Of course, the best solution is to just get it done and throw JS under the bus and back over him a few times before leaving him behind as road kill, but if you need a half-way house on the way out of Mormonism, the Community of Christ looks ideal. Thank you so much for sharing. What are the grounds to punish for some sins and not others? 10:9–10; 1 Ne. In his work, The Christ of the Prophets (P&R, 2004), O. Palmer Robertson provides an invaluable guide to the prophetic books. Current status : The Community of Christ was formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints -- the " RLDS Church ". (Used by permission, Library-Archives, Community of Christ.) The revelation was the culmination of instructions shared over the course of more than 150 years by prior prophet-presidents recognized by the Community of Christ. And you still get to keep Joseph Smith while shedding virtually ALL of the uncivilized aspects of Modern LDS homophobics and misogyny. You can even toss out verses from the BofM you don’t like, cursing the Lamanites with dark skin, for example. I also get the impression there are not manuals handed out and each congregation can teach what they want which of course is not the same as the LDS church. Their head office moved several times and finally settled in Independence MO in 1920. It is clear in the Bible/BofM that adultery is a sin, but what about all of the other sins listed too? For a closer look at the history and beliefs of the Community of Christ, click here. All rights reserved. Particularly minister with... World Church leaders, priesthood, members, affiliates, and partner organizations to promote Christ's mission. You asked all the pertinent and hard questions very respectfully. And this second beast looks like a lamb but speaks as a dragon, meaning he is deceptive. In this three-part series I interview Community of Christ Prophet-President Stephen M. Veazey. He is the eighth president of the church and the second who is not a direct descendant of church founder Joseph Smith Jr. No. 31:4–8. According to his bio: Stephen M. Veazey is … When he was 14, Joseph knelt in a grove of trees to ask God which Church to join. The President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God’s prophet on earth today. http://mormonstories.wpengine.com/stephen-m-veazey-prophet-president-of-community-of-christ-formerly-rlds-church/. Thank you, John, for arranging the interview, and thanks to Stephen for being willing to speak so openly about the issues. Oh well…. The congregation with Community of Christ Church in Sarnia celebrated 100 years in the community Saturday with an open house and a visit from the international faith's president. After decades of watching LDS leaders spin and excuse and prevaricate, I was totally unprepared to watch a Mormon-tradition religious leader answer hard questions candidly and directly without showing evidence of carefully rehearsed dodging. Would that include most of what he taught in Nauvoo? Your email address will not be published. Masterfully done, John. In April 2002, Steve was set apart as president of the Council of Twelve and was the director of Field Ministries. One of his counselors in the First Presidency is female. = Gays are welcomed with open arms, including married gay couples. Veazy’s formal attitude on the CofC website and how he is as a human person. A message from the Community of Christ's prophet. Hosea 11:1. c. He would be a child in Nazareth. It is an inspiration to read the comments left here regarding Steve the CofC by LDS and non LDS alike. Excommunication (which means ex-communion – no sacrament for you for now) is rare, and ‘expulsion’ from membership is only for murderers and repeat adulterers. I deeply appreciate the insight into CoC. The Book of Mormon production was well under way … The included persons have served as President of the organization. This is a very interesting interview as it is completely different than the LDS General Authorities. Veasey shows it can be done, which leaves LDS leaders with no excuses. In venues where gay marriage is not happening yet, the CofC will perform Covenant Ceremonies for gay couples. I wasn’t 100% certain on what teaching came in the pre- and Nauvoo periods, so I had to check with a friend who just finished a new two-volume set of RLDS/CofC history. Community of Christ is the new name of what was formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. At the founding of the church, Peter quotes the prophet Joel - Acts 2:14-21 A. As Stephen M. Veazey, current president of the church states, "Community of Christ is a church that provides light for the way as well as space for the personal faith j… His past assignments include missionary and administrative work in the Southern USA Mission Field; the Africa/East Central Field; the Ontario, South Central, and East Central Regions; apostle for SPECTACULAR; Outreach Ministries commissioner; the North Central Region; Advanced Leadership Studies at International Headquarters; and African American Ministries. This is a very important inspirational vision for me Joseph Smith gave us. Currently this painting is in the hands of the Community of Christ Church (formerly the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). In this three-part series I interview Community of Christ Prophet-President Stephen M. Veazey. The list of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement includes: . As a life-long member of the RLDS/Community of Christ church, I can say that 1) the church does not practice and has not since the time of the Reorganization (April 6, 1860) practiced baptizing the dead; 2) members do not wear special garments, as that is not part of the CofC doctrine; 3) the Temple is open to everyone to enter. This interview is absolutely mind blowing. Formal reorganization occurred on April 6, 1860 at the, In 1995, Wallace B. Smith named his successor and retired to emeritus status in 1996, On 29 November 2004, McMurray resigned as President of the Church. He fulfills the role of the False Prophet in Matthew 24: 5, "For many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ; and shall deceive many." If the the oft quoted proverb “By your fruits ye shall know them” has any validity, then what this church has become over time testifies to their humanity and Christianity. One of the CofC apostles is a man from Zimbabwe. If ever there was a man called by God, it is Seve Veasey. Those teachings are not as prevalent today. I particularly liked the conclusion. In Community of Christ, while the church president is recognized as a prophet, members also assemble and vote on proposed changes in doctrine and … The list of authors can be seen in the page history. I was a devoted Latter Day Saint in those days and entirely obnoxious about the LDS claim to truth—-Steve and wife Cathy simply had nothing but love and patience for me. Too bad I didn’t seriously consider it as a youth. It broke down the wall of prejudice I was experiencing and I was able to listen without problems. Pres. I would have really liked to have grown up in the version of the gospel. Lehi, Nephi. It opened a possibility for me to be more open and positive toward CofC. Jesus Christ said: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 11 days ago. The Prophet learned about Satan through the Bible translation and the Lord made that information directly relevant to the latter-day Church in D&C 29. = Ordination of Women: Not sure of the date, but women were given full equality with men decades ago. Veazy, the focus and approach of the Community of Christ, its efforts to be transparent and inclusive. Be well. It’s a very important tool for me, a frame of thinking that gives me a good feeling. Subcategories This category has the following 3 subcategories, out of 3 total. I think they have the capacity, but would probably see it as a sign of weakness. Doctrine and Covenants is a compilation of the open canon of scripture received or submitted by prophet-presidents and other leaders throughout the history of the restoration movement and during the establishment and growth of Community of Christ from 1820 through 2016. Thank you jon and steve for being so honest and open and really interesting, l enjoyed hearing about steve’s version of the Coc gospel, it does seem so much more simplified which is how is see Jesus being, l would have liked to hear about how the Coc church feel about the plan of salvation and baptisms for the dead in more explanation and the use of the temple also how they regard the wearing of garments and how that would relate to the church’s principles and beliefs,very good, much enjoyed, thank you. The church is reducing it's budget by $1.21 million and laying off 18+ people. Prophet–Presidents and Presidents of the Community of Christ including all Presidents of its institutional predecessor, the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I want to take clips from the video to share on Facebook. Joseph Fielding Smith whom was an LDS Apostle for 60 years later became the tenth prophet of the Church said this about the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS). (Courtesy of Community of Christ Archives.) Just like the John Hamer podcasts, this one is very precious for me and I will listen again and again. Veazey urges congregations not to open too early and being physically present in church is NOT a test of faith. We also move away from the storehouse concept and signing over our property and surplus to the church. We have also moved away from the “storehouse” concept and signing over our property and surplus to the church. Prophets. Robertson divides his work into fourteen chapters. I’m missing The Plan of Salvation in CofC. ( John 13:34). The prosperity focus of Mormonism vs. the grace and love of Community of Christ. It healed my soul to hear of other people who could take the same events and writings and be so intelligent and loving in how they implemented them in their lives and used them to bring them closer to God. Community of Christ Prophet President Steve Veazey sits down with Linda Booth to talk about the year ahead and other timely topics that are impacting nations, the … I’d certainly consider joining the CoC if my husband would, especially after hearing this (Thank you Dr. John and Prophet-President Steve). Wouldn’t it be something if the general authorities of the LDS church were this open and honest. This was a great interview and the progression the RLDS /CofC has made is courageous. This group, who refused to follow Brigham Young after the death of Joseph Smith, formed their own Church with Smith's son as their prophet leader. On occasion, prophets may be inspired to foretell the future for the benefit of mankind. Learn how your comment data is processed. The temple was built by the Community of Christ in response to a revelation presented at their 1984 World Conference by church prophet-president Wallace B. Smith. Cultural Context Preceding the Book of Mormon. 156:5b It shall also be for a strengthening of faith and preparation for witness. And it’s OK to believe that the BofM is fiction and the Golden Plates never existed. Thank you for your comments and questions, Beth. It has been proven time after time the LDS General Authorities…well any LDS leadership for that matter, are quick to punish their congregation, while the CofC is understanding and more Christ like blaming the nature of man for short comings. Any chance to get a printable copy of this interview with Stephen Veasey? In this Sacred Grove, God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, appeared to young Joseph in … Thank you. Community of Christ International Headquarters is located in Independence, Missouri. Would the CofC really be considered an Organized Religion? This list gives 15 ways in … This from an ex-Mormon turned Unitarian Universalist, who is still married to (and still in love with) a diehard 150 percent devoted LDS wonderful man. He finally consented to become a prophet and on April 6, 1860 the Reorganized Christ of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was born. Seriously, if more disaffected Mormons knew more about the CofC, more would see it as an almost too-good-to-be-true solution. After the church dispersed in 1844, those folks who did not head west with Brigham Young kind of scattered until April 6, 1860 when Joseph’s son, Joseph Smith III, was ordained prophet-president (Hence the name Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of LDS) The church did not bring into our beliefs doctrines dealing with the practice of secret/sacred rites in the Nauvoo temple, the issue of polygamy, a plurality of Gods, sealing marriages in the temple for eternity, and the unquestionable, infallible, word of God through the Prophet/President. Everything Steve said seemed to be the opposite of what LDS leaders would say. Portrait. Text: Jeremiah 23:9-40 I. CLICK HERE FOR OUR LATEST PODCASTS Donate, John Dehlin November 23, 2015 Best of Mormon Stories, Faith Promoting Stories, Johns Favorites, Progressive Mormonism, Top 100, Top 25 Faithful 26 Comments. 1 Ne. Is this something you allow/encourage? “Who is this man?” When we look for Godly men in the world, this man would qualify for the title. An ideal solution for disaffected Mormons still clinging to Joseph’s Myth. 156:5c By its ministries an attitude of wholeness of body, mind, and spirit as a desirable end toward which to strive will be fostered. Not only all of the above, but Stephen Veazey actually believes the most important thing his church can do is practice the teachings of Jesus Christ above all other considerations. 156:5a “…shall be dedicated to the pursuit of peace. His primary responsibility, however, is to bear witness of Christ. Especially proclaim and promote... God's vision for creation and the church's mission throughout the world. 11:13, 20. d. He would be baptized by the messenger-prophet beyond Jordan near Bethabara; the prophet would testify of him, and the Holy Ghost would descend on him as a dove. Nevertheless, the Community of Christ offers a number of the commonly held beliefs of its members and leaders as the "generally accepted beliefs of the church." The original content was at Category:Prophet-Presidents of the Community of Christ. His responsibilities also included Church Planting Ministries and Young Adult and Campus Ministries. He distills the fruit of a lifetime of study into one masterful volume. His early demise left the fledgling church with a political power struggle. The Community of Christ states that it recognizes that "perception of truth is always qualified by human nature and experience" and it therefore has not adopted an official religious creed. I suppose in one sense you could say many of Joseph’s Nauvoo teachings were rejected. The False Prophet, is called that in Matthew 24: 11, in II Peter 2: 1-3, I John 4: 1, and Revelation 16: 13. I see it lacking in mine. It truly comes down to the money. :o). I guess you could say, in one sense, that we did reject some of Joseph’s teachings from the Nauvoo period. Sometime during the 1840's, a portrait of Joseph Smith was painted. Their leadership seems to fully embrace the teachings and compassion of Jesus extended unconditionally to everyone, regardless of genitalia or attraction proclivities. The church’s mission is to “proclaim Jesus Christ and promote communities of joy, hope, love, and peace. 11:27; 2 Ne. Community of Christ has 250,000 members in more than 60 nations. I have a question. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Represent Christ primarily as ministers... of prophetic visioning and worldwide church leadership. Thanks for your question. So members and nonmembers of the Church are welcome to enter all parts of the Temple as we understand it to be a House of God for all peoples and a place of preparation, worship and healing; 5) historically the RLDS/CofC church taught the three glories (Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial). Thanks for your question. A prophet denounces sin and foretells its consequences. I am 2/3 through watching John Dehlin’s interview of Stephen Veazey. This prophecy of Messiah’s birth was foretold by Micah over 500 years before it happened, and it was fulfilled in Bethlehem when God became man: the Divine Incarnation in the person of Jesus Christ. It shall be for reconciliation and for healing of the spirit. Wow! This one left me with the same impression I had after hearing the MS interviews with John Hamer, that Community of Christ is what a church SHOULD be, what churches should have been all along. So the church body could vote against any revelation or teaching put forth by the prophet that would be binding on the church. :o), However, CofC perfectly fits in my idea of Plan of Salvation, time and insight will tell how it will come together. While I am active LDS with various faith challenges, I feel a great jealousy for the spiritual maturity reflected within your faith community. One of their apostles is a Polynesian female. Listening to this interview has brought a renewed sense of lightness to my soul: the fact that the same foundation could give rise to two very different churches – one proclaiming a prosperity gospel and the other a message of compassion and grace – gives me hope for the future. Thank you jon and steve for being so honest and open and really interesting, l enjoyed hearing about steve’s version of the Coc gospel, it does seem so much more simplified which is how is see Jesus being, l would have liked to hear about how the Coc church feel about the plan of salvation and baptisms for the dead in more explanation and the use of the temple also how they regard the wearing of garments and how that would relate to the church’s principles and beliefs, it seems the Coc is far more clear in it’s ideas and thinking and that perhaps these issues are of less importance, anyway overall jon very interesting and well put together interviews, hope to see more like these and more discussions on the lds history and transparacy in the mainstream church, well done jon, keep up the good work, you’re helping so many of us struggling with faith. He voiced support for continuing to explore church online One excerpt: “We…believe that the diversity that is evident in creation is a reflection of God’s nature. A part of the foundation of the church were prophets - Ephesians 2:19-20 B. All RLDS/Community of Christ doctrine is based on the assumption that God’s revelation to Joseph Smith, saying that all other churches were wrong, made the original LDS the only true church before the falling away of Joseph Smith. To serve God is to serve others and is the greatest form of charity: the pure love of Christ. For current and former LDS Church members interested in Community of Christ, check out the Latter-day Seekers program. I wish I could say the same for Utah Mormonism. And since we don’t believe in the infallible word of God through a prophet, we do practice Common Consent, which serves as a kind of Check and Balance. Promote community by… promoting holistic "signal communities" of Christ's peace throughout the world. (Hence the name Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) In that reorganization, teachings such as the practice of secret/sacred rites in the Nauvoo Temple, the huge issue of polygamy, plurality of Gods, sealing marriages in the temple for eternity, and the unquestionable, infallible word of God through the Prophet/President were not included in the Reorganization’s doctrines. Geeze! Copyright © 2019 Mormon Stories. Yet, I’m not ready. And not only all of the above, but he says that honest, open inquiry and study of all available sources of information and history is fully encouraged, and a wide variety of conclusions about Joseph Smith, Golden Plates, historicity of the cartoons, etc., is all tolerated. Why punish people at all? Steve’s other church activities include serving as young adult minister to the Pacific Northwest Region; director of youth camps and seminars; field associate for a young adult campus ministries office; presiding elder; and counselor to the pastor in Paris, Tennessee. After hearing these videos, I really wish I had joined Community of Christ instead of the LDS. As a longtime friend of the Veazey family, I can vouch for their genuine kindness and devotion to the ministry of Christ. Veazey, you strike me as a wonderful representative for your faith. Promote justice and peacemaking by… building an international community of congregations as a global witness of Christ's peace. The purpose of the Temple, as articulated in our Doctrine and Covenants section Linda thank you for expressing your position because it summarizes what I was thinking perfectly. This is a great gift Joseph Smith gave us, it’s a pitty it’s not in the CofC, I’m holding on to it. 14) It is this painting that some historians suggest was re-photographed and copyrighted by Joseph Smith III. I think my life is empty without it. Ephesians 4:11-12 says, "And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ." Like the LDS church, Joseph Smith Jr is your founding prophet, and you use the Book of Mormon, but there is a point where you reject some of his teachings, correct? Community of Christ is the new name of what was formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Thank you both so much for this glorious interview ! b. Christ would come out of Egypt. I hope this helps answer some of your questions. Canada West Mission 7603 190 Street NW Edmonton, AB T5T 5H6 Canada 877-411-2632 He was ordained as president of seventy at the 1988 World Conference and as an apostle at the 1992 World Conference. This article lists the Prophet-Presidents of the Community of Christ. But what I found most interesting this there is still discipline in the CofC for second offence adultery and a few other sins. Nephi. Born in Tennessee, he received a bachelor of science in biology from the University of Tennessee, and a master of arts in religion from Park College, Parkville, Missouri. Now if only there were a CoC congregation meeting regularly in Anchorage Alaska where we live, and if only my TBM husband could become convinced that Joseph Smith III was the rightful successor instead of Brigham Young, then we might actually have an opportunity to share the same religion again. Independence, Missouri and I will listen again and again First Presidency is female the page history everyone... 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